Comments on: Mark Shuttleworth puts me in my place http://justinhartman.com/2006/12/07/mark-shuttleworth-puts-me-in-my-place/ Living Life. Running a Startup. Loving Technology. Sat, 13 Mar 2010 14:58:27 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Chris Lees http://justinhartman.com/2006/12/07/mark-shuttleworth-puts-me-in-my-place/comment-page-1/#comment-2802 Chris Lees Fri, 22 Dec 2006 20:58:21 +0000 http://justinhartman.com/2006/12/17/mark-shuttleworth-puts-me-in-my-place/#comment-2802 Thanks for posting a comment on (and a link to!) my blog.<br><br>It takes three good people to maintain an entire architecture, plus a whack of processor time for compiling. It's possible to cross-compile (i.e. do the PowerPC compiling on an x86 machine), so processing power is really pretty cheap. Some of the Ubuntu developers already use PowerPCs for coding and whatnot. What part of that signals a detraction from the x86 version?<br><br>Many people have been saying "That's it, I'm going upstream to Debian". I myself considered a move to Fedora. The idea of moving is incorrect - Fedora and Debian don't care about PowerPC users' needs. Maintaining someone else's distribution is also a bad idea - constantly having to hack around with x86-specific code to make it work on PPC is not my idea of fun, and it means that you can't work on making the user experience better.<br><br>My idea? Take the excellent work that has been done, make it more applicable to Mac owners, and see where it takes us. Small steps to start off with: A bit of customisation work to make the desktop more comfortable, plus some programs useful to Mac owners. Then some custom-written programs and bugfixes. Thanks for posting a comment on (and a link to!) my blog.

It takes three good people to maintain an entire architecture, plus a whack of processor time for compiling. It's possible to cross-compile (i.e. do the PowerPC compiling on an x86 machine), so processing power is really pretty cheap. Some of the Ubuntu developers already use PowerPCs for coding and whatnot. What part of that signals a detraction from the x86 version?

Many people have been saying “That's it, I'm going upstream to Debian”. I myself considered a move to Fedora. The idea of moving is incorrect – Fedora and Debian don't care about PowerPC users' needs. Maintaining someone else's distribution is also a bad idea – constantly having to hack around with x86-specific code to make it work on PPC is not my idea of fun, and it means that you can't work on making the user experience better.

My idea? Take the excellent work that has been done, make it more applicable to Mac owners, and see where it takes us. Small steps to start off with: A bit of customisation work to make the desktop more comfortable, plus some programs useful to Mac owners. Then some custom-written programs and bugfixes.

]]> By: Chris Lees http://justinhartman.com/2006/12/07/mark-shuttleworth-puts-me-in-my-place/comment-page-1/#comment-15 Chris Lees Fri, 22 Dec 2006 13:58:21 +0000 http://justinhartman.com/2006/12/17/mark-shuttleworth-puts-me-in-my-place/#comment-15 Thanks for posting a comment on (and a link to!) my blog. It takes three good people to maintain an entire architecture, plus a whack of processor time for compiling. It's possible to cross-compile (i.e. do the PowerPC compiling on an x86 machine), so processing power is really pretty cheap. Some of the Ubuntu developers already use PowerPCs for coding and whatnot. What part of that signals a detraction from the x86 version? Many people have been saying "That's it, I'm going upstream to Debian". I myself considered a move to Fedora. The idea of moving is incorrect - Fedora and Debian don't care about PowerPC users' needs. Maintaining someone else's distribution is also a bad idea - constantly having to hack around with x86-specific code to make it work on PPC is not my idea of fun, and it means that you can't work on making the user experience better. My idea? Take the excellent work that has been done, make it more applicable to Mac owners, and see where it takes us. Small steps to start off with: A bit of customisation work to make the desktop more comfortable, plus some programs useful to Mac owners. Then some custom-written programs and bugfixes. Thanks for posting a comment on (and a link to!) my blog.

It takes three good people to maintain an entire architecture, plus a whack of processor time for compiling. It’s possible to cross-compile (i.e. do the PowerPC compiling on an x86 machine), so processing power is really pretty cheap. Some of the Ubuntu developers already use PowerPCs for coding and whatnot. What part of that signals a detraction from the x86 version?

Many people have been saying “That’s it, I’m going upstream to Debian”. I myself considered a move to Fedora. The idea of moving is incorrect – Fedora and Debian don’t care about PowerPC users’ needs. Maintaining someone else’s distribution is also a bad idea – constantly having to hack around with x86-specific code to make it work on PPC is not my idea of fun, and it means that you can’t work on making the user experience better.

My idea? Take the excellent work that has been done, make it more applicable to Mac owners, and see where it takes us. Small steps to start off with: A bit of customisation work to make the desktop more comfortable, plus some programs useful to Mac owners. Then some custom-written programs and bugfixes.

]]> By: Justin Hartman » Debian etch is now my local flavour http://justinhartman.com/2006/12/07/mark-shuttleworth-puts-me-in-my-place/comment-page-1/#comment-13 Justin Hartman » Debian etch is now my local flavour Thu, 21 Dec 2006 11:40:27 +0000 http://justinhartman.com/2006/12/17/mark-shuttleworth-puts-me-in-my-place/#comment-13 [...] Mark Shuttleworth’s email to me and the whole debate that has gone on about Ubuntu’s decision to drop PowerPC has made this decision difficult however seeing as I have only recently moved from Apple OSX to Ubuntu I figured it’s better to move now and stick with a distro that will support PowerPC for probably a few more years than be stuck with a distro that is left to the devices of a community that might simply let PowerPC support die a slow and bitter death. The overall consensus I got from the Ubuntu Forums is that PowerPC users are already looking for a new Linux distro which has also played a big part in deciding to move to Debian. That said I will still support Ubuntu and keep my current 6.10 installations on my PC at home and work while my iBook will now begin the big migrate to Debian. [...] [...] Mark Shuttleworth’s email to me and the whole debate that has gone on about Ubuntu’s decision to drop PowerPC has made this decision difficult however seeing as I have only recently moved from Apple OSX to Ubuntu I figured it’s better to move now and stick with a distro that will support PowerPC for probably a few more years than be stuck with a distro that is left to the devices of a community that might simply let PowerPC support die a slow and bitter death. The overall consensus I got from the Ubuntu Forums is that PowerPC users are already looking for a new Linux distro which has also played a big part in deciding to move to Debian. That said I will still support Ubuntu and keep my current 6.10 installations on my PC at home and work while my iBook will now begin the big migrate to Debian. [...]

]]> By: justin hartman http://justinhartman.com/2006/12/07/mark-shuttleworth-puts-me-in-my-place/comment-page-1/#comment-2801 justin hartman Wed, 20 Dec 2006 18:18:25 +0000 http://justinhartman.com/2006/12/17/mark-shuttleworth-puts-me-in-my-place/#comment-2801 I just happened to stumble across <a href="http://bigbolshevik.blogs.friendster.com/a_man_and_his_penguin/2006/12/powerpc_upgrade.html" rel="nofollow">this blog site</a> and I thought I have to share it with you. Seems I was not the only one to be a little pissed off at this decision to drop PPC. I just happened to stumble across this blog site and I thought I have to share it with you. Seems I was not the only one to be a little pissed off at this decision to drop PPC.

]]> By: Paul http://justinhartman.com/2006/12/07/mark-shuttleworth-puts-me-in-my-place/comment-page-1/#comment-2800 Paul Wed, 20 Dec 2006 11:59:16 +0000 http://justinhartman.com/2006/12/17/mark-shuttleworth-puts-me-in-my-place/#comment-2800 Lol! He does make a good point. Even he has limited resources. Lol! He does make a good point. Even he has limited resources.

]]> By: justin hartman http://justinhartman.com/2006/12/07/mark-shuttleworth-puts-me-in-my-place/comment-page-1/#comment-6 justin hartman Wed, 20 Dec 2006 11:18:25 +0000 http://justinhartman.com/2006/12/17/mark-shuttleworth-puts-me-in-my-place/#comment-6 I just happened to stumble across <a href="http://bigbolshevik.blogs.friendster.com/a_man_and_his_penguin/2006/12/powerpc_upgrade.html" rel="nofollow">this blog site</a> and I thought I have to share it with you. Seems I was not the only one to be a little pissed off at this decision to drop PPC. I just happened to stumble across this blog site and I thought I have to share it with you. Seems I was not the only one to be a little pissed off at this decision to drop PPC.

]]> By: Paul http://justinhartman.com/2006/12/07/mark-shuttleworth-puts-me-in-my-place/comment-page-1/#comment-5 Paul Wed, 20 Dec 2006 04:59:16 +0000 http://justinhartman.com/2006/12/17/mark-shuttleworth-puts-me-in-my-place/#comment-5 Lol! He does make a good point. Even he has limited resources. Lol! He does make a good point. Even he has limited resources.

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